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For the last two years I have divided my time between Indiana and New York State. I attend four different Meetings all with very different and unique qualities. Yet I cannot help noticing the overall difference between being a young adult Friend in Richmond, Indiana and being a young adult Friend in New York. In some ways I am very much like most young Friends in New York Yearly Meeting. I attend college. I am politically very liberal and socially live an alternative life style. I identify as a queer woman, am against the war in Iraq, and care about the environment. However, unlike most young adult Friends in New York Yearly Meeting I also consider myself a Christian.
When I am in Indiana, Christian Quakerism is the norm. While worshiping with students from Earlham School of Religion, I have grown comfortable in assuming that every Friend there is, like me, Christian and deeply religious. Therefore our conversations can move on to tackle the hard questions of specific pieces of theology and Quaker practice. When I am in NY however the truth is, conversations with young Friends will probably never get past the fact that I am Christian. Even more unfortunately I have found young and young adult Friends to be openly hostile towards me because I am Christian. I have been told over and over again by young adult Friends that Quakers are not Christian, that we have moved beyond such backwards ways, that all Christians are closed-minded, that it makes them uncomfortable to be around Christians. Over and over again I have been asked to explain why I could possibly want to be Christian? How I
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such thing as a liberal Christian Friend, and therefore feel free to make fun of other Christian denominations while in a group of Friends, to tell insulting jokes about Jesus and other Christian figures, or to complain about how horrible Evangelical Friends are, largely because they are Christian. The assumption has been made over and over again that the only reason I could possibly be Christian is because I was raised that way. This is in fact untrue because although I was raised a Friend, I was neither particularly religious, nor Christian for many years, considering myself first atheist then agnostic. In fact it
has only been within the last three years that I have considered myself Christian. Yet in the last three years I have been nothing but happy with my decision and the faith that I have found.
There are many days when I feel out of place in the liberal branch of Quakerism. I realize that, what are vital and exciting questions of Quaker practice and theology for me, would be found confusing, uninteresting and in some case even insulting to many liberal Friends. Over and over again I have thought that my philosophy and outlook on Quakerism much more reflected the Conservative rather then the Liberal branch. Yet no matter how hard I want to run to a Conservative Yearly Meeting and have done with Liberal Quakerism, I stay. Partly because I was raised a Liberal Friend, more importantly however is the fact that I am a Liberal Friend. Liberal Quakerism prides its self upon being open and accepting. It stresses learning about and from others. Therefore, I
challenge it to do just that. As many times as people tell me I'm not really a Liberal Friend or Liberal Quakerism is not really Christian I challenge then to think that maybe I can be right, or maybe the liberal branch is not as open and welcoming as it seem.
Furthermore although I truly believe that Liberal Quakerism has much to offer, the time has come for change. Liberal Quakerism is losing its vitality and strength. It needs to be revitalized, to re-embrace practices and traditions it has left behind. We need to change and rediscover ways of being Quaker that might frighten and challenge many Liberal Friends.

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MartinK said...

Hi Anna, I'm sorry to hear of the culture clashes. It's way to common I'm afraid. There are enough Christian-identified Friends in New York Yearly Meeting that the idea of Christian Quaker should be widely understood but there are still so many stereotypes and misunderstandings. Many older Friends don't seem to share their beliefs in public--especially with younger Friends--so the model of a sincere Liberal Christian Friend isn't there.

Liberal Quakerism should be able to embrace traditionalist Friends. Although I sometimes joke I'm a "Conservative Friend trapped in a Liberal Quaker body," I too have felt clear instructions to stay. I think part of the work is just being ourselves and helping others see that a Christian Quaker isn't a paradox.
Martin @ Quaker Ranter

Lovin' Life Liz said...

I had a somewhat simliar experience at FGC. See my blog at lovinlifeliz.blogspot.com I think its the 2nd post down (the long one)

It's so nice to know there are other Liberal Christian Friends who struggle with the same issues. I'd love to discuss with you sometime!

Anonymous said...

Hi, Anna,

Thanks very much for the excellent post. I can identify with so much of what you wrote. I, too, call myself a Liberal Christian Quaker. Last year I had an article published in Friends Journal called "Shades of Gray" in which I tried to help other Friends understand that there are many forms of Christianity, not just the stereotypical ones they may abhor.

I was raised in an FGC yearly meeting, but I struggled very much with Liberal Quakerism. Just like you, I felt more aligned with Conservative Friends but ultimately realized that I am a Liberal Friend, and that's where I've stayed.

I want to encourage you to continue to speak your truth and look to God for comfort and guidance. Perhaps you could write an article for Friends Journal along the lines of this post. I think your voice needs to be heard.

When you are back in Richmond, look me up. I work at Earlham in the accounting department, and attend Clear Creek Meeting.

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anj said...

Anna- Thank you for writing this experience. As a 45 year old Liberal Christian Friend, I rarely have another Friend minimize my faith as a Christian Quaker. At least, not to my face. For my sons,however, their experience has been very different. To the point where they would rather not attend Yearly Meeting. They are seeking, but seeking within a Christian context, and they seemed to feel last year that, in their peers eyes, that was not a valid journey. It is a dilemma to a parent who wants them to be a part of a faith community who will nurture their spiritual journey and model to them how to nurture others spiritual journeys. For now, we 'feed' their journeys at home and at our monthly meeting who affirms their searching within a Christian context. I wish you could find that same support amongst your peers.

Blue Gal said...

I'm new to Quakerism but not to Christianity. I love what one of my Quaker "sponsors" (ha) said: "My coffee has caffeine, my beer has alcohol, my faith has Jesus. Ain't no buzz without it."

One fundamental (no pun intended) errors liberals in faith make is to allow the right wing to DEFINE who Jesus is. Jesus of Nazareth was nailed to a tree by the political and religious CONSERVATIVES of his day because they mistakenly thought they had power and that he threatened that power.

Quakerism, for me, opens the way to a wider faith rather than a narrower. I can see the Light in other teachers, too. But give up Jesus? Heh.

Zach A said...

Anna,
I was with you until the last paragraph. If you had ended before there, the post would've made more sense to me, and reading the final paragraph in a different context (perhaps if you expanded on those thoughts in another post?) probably would've also made sense to me.

But the juxtaposition a little less so. Let me try to paraphrase how your post reads to me, and hopefully you'll see what I mean (and perhaps be able to clear things up).

1. Many Non-Christian liberal Friends in NYYM in your experience are frightened, suspicious and even hostile toward Christianity.

2. You would like them to be more accepting of you and your Christianity.

3. You think they should change, re-embrace Quaker traditions, even if it frightens them!

Do you see how the attitude of #3 may come across as militant, and play into the perception -- correct or not in your case; I don't know you well enough to know -- that Christian Friends want to pressure the liberal branch of the SoF to turn back the clock and become "rechristinated"?

Doesn't it seem like this may directly or indirectly contribute to #1, and undermine the sympathy you are seeking at #2?

Warm regards,
Zach A / The Seed Lifting Up

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Friends,
Thank you all for commenting. I am surprised and saddened to hear other Christian Friends have shared my experience.

Zach: This post is aimed at the statement I have heard far too often; that Christian Friends face no hostility because of there beliefs, yet “serve out prejudice” so to speak to non-Christian Friends all the time. I wanted to put my experience, which has been the opposite, out there. I don’t think all Non-Christian Friends should become Christian. What I do think is that they should re-examine the role Christianity, has played and still does play in Quakerism, before writing it off as worthless all together. I also think they should question if they are, as I have heard many non-Christian Friends claim, more open to difference and new ideas then Christians are. I believe, like all of us, non-Christian Friends are not open to things that scare them, which usually includes Christianity. Finally, yes, I would agree my tone is militant at time :~) I am very blunt and out spoken about what I believe. I also don’t want to try and make myself into a “good Christian”, if that’s not who I am and what I believe, just because someone is scared of “bad Christians” (this isn’t referring to you in any way). Finally one of the main points I was trying to make is that the liberal branch of Quakerism is at least partly Christian because it includes Christian traditions and Christian Friends. I am surprised that you separate Christian Friends from the liberal branch of Quakerism as if they where to separate entities.

Over all, thank you everyone for your thoughts.

Peace and Joy,
Anna.

QuakerDave said...

One of the things I like about Quakerism is the diversity of thought. And my own religious journey makes me feel more like a Universalist Friend that anything else. To identify oneself as a "Liberal Friend," to me, should mean eschewing stereotypes and embracing difference.

BUT.

Folks do need to realize that Quakers are, at heart, Christians. If they don't, they are denying basic factual history. Most of these NYC "Young Friends" wouldn't know George Fox or John Woolman or Lucretia Mott if they tripped over them.

The trouble is, they'd probably really dig what they have to say. To stop the conversation just because someone is a self-declared Christian, to me, isn't very "Quakerly."

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reflect06 said...

Anna-

man, you have got to get over to Renaissance House when you come back to Richmond. i agree with you on the neccesity of Jesus to Quaker thought and practice. the early Quakers, i'm told, were so steeped in the Bible that they could fire off passages from memory. not a requirement or even something one may hope for one's self to be able to do, but a reminder.

Jesus *was* a spiritual liberal who tended to avoid politics in favor of love, piety, and simplicity. his words demanded to renouncing of pride and arrogance, forgiveness of others, and intimacy with God. what is there to steer away from? i am in agreement with Quaker Dave- that perhaps many NYC folks could get into and be inspired by the more traditional Quaker writings if they would give them a read.

Rich in Brooklyn said...

Anna,
I don't know whether 15th Street Meeting is one of the New York Meetings where you've encountered this attitude. I'm afraid it might be, but I'm hoping it isn't. It seems to me that there has been a growing openness to Quaker Christian faith, and interest in it, over the past several years at 15th Street. It's hard for me to tell, though, how much this is reflected among the few young adult Friends in our midst.
Anyway, if you haven't visited 15th Street yet I hope you will, and if you have I hope you'll try us again. There are people here who would affirm both your religious identity and your gender preference identity.
I'm a fairly active member and usually attend the 11 a.m. worship on Sundays. I'd be very pleased to meet you if you should happen to attend.
Peace of Christ,
Rich Accetta-Evans (Brooklyn Quaker)

Zach A said...

Anna,
Thank you for your clarification. I'll make a clarification as well -- nothing I wrote above was meant to imply an either/or between Christian and liberal Friends. I'm guessing you were responding to what I said toward the end; what I was saying there was that corporately, liberal Quakerism is no longer outwardly Christian (and we should remember that it is the mere outward we are talking here), and there are Friends who want to make it so again. I wasn't saying it's not partially Christian, as it certainly is.

Peace,
Zach

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